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Aviation News / Re: UK MP wants to stop flying in The Mach Loop
« on: July 28, 2010, 11:46:19 am »
Ok guys. Stop this thread right here!!
I dont think people should start posting opinions and comments on a subject that is relatively unknown in Ireland. There is a big Sh*%t storm going on in the UK about the Mach Loop for various reasons and these Plaid Cymru MP's are jumping on the bandwagon.
Ive been going to the Machloop for 8 years and Im friends with a lot of locals and I know the majority of people in Dinas Mawddwy. Im also friends with a lot of RAF pilots so I see both sides of the story.
So trust me on this, its being blown way out of context by the anti-low flying lobbyists. A lot of them are people who moved into the area, it would be akin to moving from a residential suburb of Dublin to the firing line on the glen of Imall range. We all know what goes on in the Glen.
The road noise at Dinas is a lot more annoying than the aircraft and the aircraft noise only lasts 2 seconds and is a whoosh rather than a sudden bang. OK, the F-15's can be loud but not hearing damage loud and are not a daily occurance.
Aircraft movements have gone from 50+ a day during the cold war to about 0-10 today, 0900-1800hrs, mon-fri.
The most aircraft recorded in a day recent years was 45 last june and this is an extreme rarity, these guys were working up for Iraq and happened to use the Loop, which is a small part of LFA7 (Low Flying Area) and the LFS (Low Flying System)
F-16's have only been recorded in the Loop once in the past 20 years so dont know where that guy is going and Typhoons, though a little more common these days, are a rarity in the Loop. As a matter of fact it took me 6 years to bag my first one!!! The majority of traffic are Hawks from RAF Valley and the locals say these dont bother them!!!
Anyhoo, I wont harp on , this subject has been done to the death on all the UK forums even before these MPs started their latest rant. Its all about votes and money guys, votes and money!!
I dont think people should start posting opinions and comments on a subject that is relatively unknown in Ireland. There is a big Sh*%t storm going on in the UK about the Mach Loop for various reasons and these Plaid Cymru MP's are jumping on the bandwagon.
Ive been going to the Machloop for 8 years and Im friends with a lot of locals and I know the majority of people in Dinas Mawddwy. Im also friends with a lot of RAF pilots so I see both sides of the story.
So trust me on this, its being blown way out of context by the anti-low flying lobbyists. A lot of them are people who moved into the area, it would be akin to moving from a residential suburb of Dublin to the firing line on the glen of Imall range. We all know what goes on in the Glen.
The road noise at Dinas is a lot more annoying than the aircraft and the aircraft noise only lasts 2 seconds and is a whoosh rather than a sudden bang. OK, the F-15's can be loud but not hearing damage loud and are not a daily occurance.
Aircraft movements have gone from 50+ a day during the cold war to about 0-10 today, 0900-1800hrs, mon-fri.
The most aircraft recorded in a day recent years was 45 last june and this is an extreme rarity, these guys were working up for Iraq and happened to use the Loop, which is a small part of LFA7 (Low Flying Area) and the LFS (Low Flying System)
F-16's have only been recorded in the Loop once in the past 20 years so dont know where that guy is going and Typhoons, though a little more common these days, are a rarity in the Loop. As a matter of fact it took me 6 years to bag my first one!!! The majority of traffic are Hawks from RAF Valley and the locals say these dont bother them!!!
Anyhoo, I wont harp on , this subject has been done to the death on all the UK forums even before these MPs started their latest rant. Its all about votes and money guys, votes and money!!