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« on: March 13, 2005, 09:43:51 am »
Quote (Tony Kearns @ 12 Mar. 2005,09:27) |
Forget about a phoenix. It is a John K said, an Eagle. It was first mooted in late 1923 in conference and by early 1924 the badge depicting an ancient Irish eagle mounted above the globe had been agreed and dates from this time.I am somewhat disappointed by the tone of your website depicting disrespect to the national flag with drink etc defacing the nationasl colours. Is this an OIRISH thing. I am surprise that none of our Defence Force posters (regular and reserve) have not remarked on this on the forum Any comments from anyone? Tony Kearns (thats my real name what's yours?) |
@ Mr. Kearns
I´ve to thank you twice! '>
First of all I like to thank you for giving this valuable information about the eagle ... I´ve been told so far that the being in the badge was an phoenix ...
Secondly I like to thank you for visiting our site.
Although I'm sorry to read that you feel offended by the way we used the Irish flag. Believe me when I say that it was never our intention to do so.
In a point of fact I´m a member of a bunch of flight simulation fans who are in some way related to Ireland. This group isn´t as organized as other "squadrons" with ranks like C.O. and X.O. ... after all we think it´s just another PC game that we fly together in terms of enjoyment of virtual comradeship.
Of course I agree with you when you claim that pint has nothing to do with the Irish colours. I´ve to admit we played a bit with this stereotype in order to show that our group of pilots doesn´t belong to the above mentioned serious squads.
Maybe you can help me to find/create a graphic to show the visitors of our site that we don´t belong to these serious ones but have some kind of relationship to the Green Island? Your support would be much appreciated, Mr. Kearns ...
I do regret if anyone of you feels offended by the way we used the Irish colours. We didn´t mean to disrespect them at all ...
Sláinte, Mr. Kearns!
Frank Assmus (there you go)
@Guinness
Well, I´ve been aware of the fact that there´s always some kind of sensitivity when it comes to national symbols. Even in my own country people react differently when e.g. the National anthem is played or the flag is hoisted.
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"In meinem Staate kann jeder nach seiner Façon selig werden." - In my country everybody can be blissful at his own will. |
King of Prussia Friedrich II 1740
I´d keep it this way and show respect to everyone´s opinion ... you don´t need to share it tho ...
Ty, Gents!
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« on: March 10, 2005, 08:39:17 pm »
Quote (pilatus @ 10 Mar. 2005,10:39) |
sweet thats for il2sturmovik? |
Yep, it is ... do you like to have a copy?
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« on: March 10, 2005, 07:14:17 am »
Quote (202 @ 09 Mar. 2005,04:16) |
The Phoenix (if that is the creature depicted on the badge) is a common symbol for resurrection or the creation a new entity from al old regime so its use in the IAC badge would not be surprising.
However the word Phoenix in Ireland can have diverse origins. In the case of the best known landmark 'Phoenix Park' it has nothing to do with the bird but rather is likely to arise from years of linguistic transformation of the Irish placename 'Finn uisce' or 'bright water' presumably referring to a local stream once of significance to the early settlers of the area. So origins of insignia, titles and terms is a fascinating if inexact science. |
Wow, that´s what I call pretty interesting ... ty for the information about it, 202! '>
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« on: March 07, 2005, 08:37:30 pm »
Quote (Guinness @ 07 Mar. 2005,11:35) |
it once flew over the Green Isle?? '>
Guinness.
P.S.
Genosse, if you address this same question on Irishinsignia to "the Flight" he'll be the man to answer the question. |
Rgrt! Will do so ...
Ty, Guinness! '>
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« on: March 07, 2005, 12:26:40 pm »
Ty a lot for your replies so far ... '>
By accident I found following information about the badge:
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Collar Badges - Air Corps
The Air Corps collar badge has remained the same design since its introduction in 1924. The first badge was a solid (non voided) type in silver for officers and brass for enlisted ranks. The solid badge had a short life and was replaced by the voided version which was worn until 1942. In that year officers changed to a cloth badge and enlisted ranks wore bronze. The cloth badge only lasted two years and officers adopted the metal bronze. The next change came in 1958 when a bright brass was introduced. Then in the early 1970s the staybrite badges appeared. Since 1994 the collar badge has been chrome. This badge is worn in pairs facing outwards. |
Source: irishmilitaryinsignia.com
So what´s the original Irish link to the phoenix then?
Sláinte! '>
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« on: March 05, 2005, 06:24:45 pm »
Anyone? '>
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« on: March 03, 2005, 07:38:58 pm »
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"Stay-Bright" Air Corps Collar Badge with the legend in Irish: "Forfaire agus Tairseact" meaning: "Vigilant and Loyal" |
This is the information I found on Frank´s site about the phoenix. Does anyone knows more about this badge like history, origin, etc.?
Ty in advance ... '>
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« on: March 03, 2005, 07:31:19 pm »
Folks!
Just wanted to drop in to say "Hello!" ... I´m pretty new to this board and I´m looking for many inspiration for any kind of Irish looking skins for my virtual PC aircrafts ... :'>
Anyhow, ... I´m going to visit the Duxford, UK airshow this year in July ... maybe we´ll see us there! '>
Sláinte!
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