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Irish Air Corps / What should the Major Air Corps Roles Be?
« on: August 02, 2007, 08:28:53 pm »
Quote (FiannaFail @ 01 Aug. 2007,22:52)
In light of recent comments on other threads I would be interested in hearing all your views on what you think should be the major roles of the Air Corps.  I get the sense that some of you feel we shouldn't have the Air Corps and perhaps leave it to the RAF,USAF or even the French to look after us. If that's the case should we shuck it all in?  Or should we take our sovernity seriously and have a minimum Air Corps/Air Force?
FiannaFail
 'buttrock'


No we shouldn't chuck it all in, and I think even the biggest critic of IAC spending wouldn't make such a suggestion. The IAC needs jets, the public perception of fighter jets is to protect us from an invasion and because theres no chance of us being invaded theres therefore no need to have them, but this isn't the case. The IAC does not have the adaqete equipment to deal with a hijacked aircraft or an aircraft not communicating with ATC thats in Irish controlled airspace. Many would also argue that investing in fighter jets compromises our neutrality, well so does the USAF using Shannon Airport yet the government seem keen on letting them continue using it.

The fact is that countries like Sweden and Switzerland are also neutral countries yet they have invested in their air force and have a great air force there to defend them. I think its a complete joke that Ireland still relies on the RAF to carry out such roles as search & rescue where the Irish Coast Guard can't, I also think its a joke that in the event of a stray aircraft in Irish airspace posing a threat to this country, we have to rely on the RAF to come over and defend us. We are a fully independent state and should not have to rely on the forces of another country to defend us. It could be said that the IAC makes very good use of what they have but the fact remains they don't have enough, and if the navy can secure €180ml of funding for 3 new ships, surely the minister for defence can secure €50-60ml of funding for new jet aircraft? Its not as if the IAC has never had them, we've had several jet aircraft in the past so it'd be nothing new.

I can understand that TDs may be cautious about the idea of securing the money for new jets as the media may throw out headlines such as 'Not enough funding for hospital beds but enough for fighter jets', but we're past the election...
While some may see the RAF defending us as a way of saving costs, I and a lot of others see it as undermining the sovereignty of this country.





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Aviation Photography / Casa On Approach For 29 Today
« on: July 27, 2007, 01:15:51 am »
Got a surprise today as the CASA was on approach for runway 29 this afternoon which I hadn't seen come over my house for a while, so I managed to get the camera out before it came overhead and snapped 2 shots of it, unfortunetly only 1 came out clear enough and thought I may as well share it on here:


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Irish Air Corps / Air Corps To Use Birr?
« on: July 13, 2007, 07:17:05 pm »
I've been told that the Brigadier General of the IAC has told a representative of Birr Airport that they'll be getting a grant for the airport to have a 950m tarmac runway built and for a new apron to be built so that the IAC could use it. I've been told the plan is to base 1 PC-9 there and the IAC will operate training flights around the area. Can anyone clarify if theres any truth to this?

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Irish Air Corps / Bertie's trip to Belfast
« on: May 31, 2007, 05:05:55 pm »
Was Bertie flying in the GIV today for his trip to Berlin? I saw a GIV flying over my house this morning(departed off rwy11), would this have been him?

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Irish Air Corps / All Eight PC9'S
« on: May 12, 2007, 12:36:34 am »
I was wondering why I saw 8 PC-9s fly over me gaf the other day, cheers for the info! And great shots Frank!

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Irish Air Corps / Baldonnel Procedures
« on: April 05, 2007, 01:08:35 am »
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Local traffic procedures at Baldonnel consist of 800', 1300' 1800'glide and 2800'pfl circuits.


Just to clarify, circuits at Baldonnel are usually at 800', 1300', 1800' and 2800'?

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The Military training areas are all west of baldonnel, and it makes sense for them to approach 11, to circle to land on the duty runway.


I never quite understood the circle-to-land procedure, is it just an orbit they do and come back in to land? and do they make the turn at a certain altitude or is that at the discretion of the pilot? Also, how often would a Surveillance Radar Approach be used at BAL?

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Instrument Approach Plates and Departure Procedures to/from Baldonnel are NOT published in the AIP.


Would it be possible for you to give the details of the ILS for rwy 11? i.e. the freq. and localiser identifier?

Regards,

Jim

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Irish Air Corps / Baldonnel Procedures
« on: March 30, 2007, 11:05:11 pm »
Lads thanks very much for all the info, really appreciate it! '<img'>

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Irish Air Corps / Baldonnel Procedures
« on: March 28, 2007, 02:50:34 pm »
Quote (Flyboy @ 28 Mar. 2007,05:27)
As a pilot (PPL) I would like to know why someone wants such detailed information. I had to learn, study and pass an R/T exam as part of my PPL course, and I learned and understood what was meant by all the seemingly strange R/T transmissions. I would suggest no-more information is given our in such a public domain.


Don't worry I'm not a CIA agent looking for this info '<img'> . Personally, I've got a big interest in aviation and I'm hoping to enroll at PTC in Waterford, but I'm also interested in the simulation/virtual side of things, and, using Microsoft's Flight Simulator, I and about 200,000 others around the world simulate real ATC and flying procedures on an online network, and its partly through this and through flight lessons that I know a lot about the real procedures used by ATC at Dublin and other airports in Ireland, but I know very little about military procedures, despite living on the flightpath of runway 29 at Baldonnel. I'm part of the Irish division of that network and I'm wanting to simulate Baldonnel ATC but can't really with the little knowledge I have of procedures there, which is why I'm asking these questions.





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Irish Air Corps / Baldonnel Procedures
« on: March 28, 2007, 01:43:04 pm »
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'this is radar vectors for a surveillance radar approach runway 11 at Baldonnel with a right hand turn in terminating at 2 nautical miles, OCA 1050 feet'


Could you explain what happens in the last bit, 'with a right handturn in terminating at 2nm, OCA 1050ft'? And when you say the procedures are mainly focused on runway 11, why is this? seen as the winds are for most of the time, for runway 29?

Sorry if I'm bombarding ye with questions here, but would you be also able to give an example of how a clearence is given to an aircraft(s) on the ground for normal flights or formation flights? Is it similar to clearences given by Dublin or are there notible differences in the transmissions?

Cheers for the info so far!

Regards,

Jim

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Irish Air Corps / Baldonnel Procedures
« on: March 27, 2007, 07:48:22 pm »
Thanks for the info Guinness, though what I'm looking for is examples of transmissions to get an idea of how the procedures work at and around Baldonnel, or even an explanation of those procedures. I've listened to Dublin ATC on liveatc.net and heard some transmissions of aircraft going into Baldonnel, but I don't have a scanner so I'm not able to listen in to Baldonnel ATC in particular.

Btw, when choosing my username, I wanted to use a callsign of my favourite IAC aircraft, and 227 just sprung to mind, I wasn't aware it was involved in that crash.





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Irish Air Corps / Baldonnel Procedures
« on: March 27, 2007, 05:35:47 pm »
Hi,

I'm interested to know what are the procedures for clearences at Baldonnel, and for approaches, does military radar usually vector the aircraft in for approach, and is this sometimes done by Dublin if certain runways are active? Would anyone have an example of transmissions used by ATC/IAC pilots?

I understand if there are restrictions around these procedures, but if anyone does know any information based around my above questions I'd really appreiate some info on it.

Cheers,

Jim

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Irish Air Corps / Air Corps To Perform Fly By
« on: March 13, 2007, 08:58:24 pm »
The Air Corps will also feature in the Paddy's Day parade in Limerick as part of the biggest military parade in the country on Saturday.

Limerick is to host the biggest military parade in the country on St Patrick's Day with a major fly-past by the Air Corps.

Minister for Defence Willie O'Dea has confirmed that he has organised a spectacular military parade for Limerick city this St Patrick's Day.

More than 230 troops will be marching in the Limerick parade and a huge array of modern equipment will be on display including six MOWAG armoured personnel carriers that are used by the Defence Forces in overseas missions.

The Air Corps fly-past will include four Pilatus PC 9s plus their newest helicopter, weather permitting.


Full story: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/?jp=MHAUKFSNEYQL

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Irish Air Corps / Smoke Pods for the PC-9M's?
« on: March 07, 2007, 03:23:38 pm »
Quote (Silver @ 03 Mar. 2007,12:10)
I see in the current AFM that the Mexican AF have recieved their first PC-9's.....so I presume that they are now putting their 'Irish PC-9' training into practice back home  'pilot_wink'

Pity we didn't get thise smoke pods  'pilot_sad'

BTW, did the AC do a flypast at the Ireland v England rugby match?
......I'm sure I saw the President looking up at the sky for a minute or so ??!

Jaysus no, I'd say she was looking at the big screen. I wonder will the air corps be involved in any of the celebrations for this years 91st 1916 Rising Commemorations? WIll it be on the same scale as last years, or will we not see a commemoration on that scale until 2016?

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Irish Air Corps / Smoke Pods for the PC-9M's?
« on: March 01, 2007, 05:29:54 pm »
Quote (Guinness @ 01 Mar. 2007,00:20)
Are there Mexican AF pilots in training at Baldonnel '<img'>???

I would love to get a patch from them !!

Guinness ':cool:'

They were but their training is complete now, they were featured in the Nationwide documentary on Baldonnel and the IAC shown last September - http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0918/nationwide.html.

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Irish Air Corps / Smoke Pods for the PC-9M's?
« on: February 24, 2007, 06:15:58 pm »
Does anyone know if the IAC ever received these smoke pods in return for training the Mexican PC-9 pilots?

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