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« on: August 13, 2004, 10:34:01 pm »
DoD press release

PRESS RELEASE

Evaluation of Air Corps Helicopter Tenders is Underway

The Minister for Defence, Mr. Michael Smith T. D., is pleased to announce
that the process of evaluating the tenders received in the competition for
light utility and utility helicopters has commenced.

The Tender Competition is for the supply of:

(i) two (2) new twin-engine light utility military helicopters which
will be operated by the Air Corps, primarily in the military pilot/aircrew
training role but with additional general-purpose roles.

(ii) four (4) new twin-engine utility military helicopters (with an
option for two (2) more) which will be operated by the Air Corps in a
general-purpose military operational and training role. These
helicopters must have the capability to carry eight fully-equipped troops
in addition to two crew.

Tenders were received from three vendors:
Augusta Westland,
Eurocopter and
Sikorski.

An Evaluation Team made up of military and civilian personnel is currently
examining the tenders. It is expected that the Team will complete its work
by the end of October.

The Minister plans to place the contract for these new helicopters before
the end of the year.

Bell haven`t offered anything so it looks like the UH-Y1 isn`t an option.





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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2004, 10:47:49 pm »
Where did this Press release come from? I don't see it on the DoD or DF website.

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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2004, 10:50:44 pm »
I nicked it off irishmilitaryonline '<img'>

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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2004, 10:54:30 pm »
Quote (futurepilot @ 13 Aug. 2004,22:50)
I nicked it off irishmilitaryonline '<img'>

Thats hardly a reliable source.

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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2004, 11:09:09 pm »
Fine:

Air Corps to get six new helicopters
13/08/2004 - 18:02:40

The Department of Defence is to buy six new helicopters for the Air Corps in a revival of a deal which was abandoned two years ago, it emerged tonight.

A contract for four helicopters capable of carrying eight troops, as well as two lighter military helicopters, will be signed before the end of the year.

The deal, believed to be worth between €30m and €50m, was abandoned in 2002 due to budget cutbacks at the Department of Defence.

At the time, Defence Minister Michael Smith had begun final negotiations on the purchase of five helicopters with the US company Sikorksy, which had promised to provide €125m of work to safeguard jobs in the Dublin maintenance company FLS Aerospace.

Another rival bidder, Eurocopter, which had been recommended by the Department of Defence’s expert group, had begun a legal challenge in the High Court to prevent the contract being awarded.

Now both Sikorsky and Eurocopter, along with the Anglo-Italian Augusta Westland company, have sent in tenders for the new contract which is for six helicopters, with an option for two more.

The Air Corps currently has 13 helicopters, including Alouette models which are up to 40 years old.

Some of the helicopters may be sold off when the new models come into service next year.

A Department of Defence spokesman said:

“The Alouette helicopters are great because they go forever. But there’s a lot of downtime on the ground to keep them in the air. The new modern helicopters have a lot less downtime – maintenance costs money, so they’ll be cheaper to run.”

The contract will be awarded before the end of the year and the Department of Defence expects the first of the new helicopters to come into service next year.

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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2004, 09:49:48 am »
Quote (futurepilot @ 13 Aug. 2004,23:09)
“The Alouette helicopters are great because they go forever. But there’s a lot of downtime on the ground to keep them in the air. The new modern helicopters have a lot less downtime – maintenance costs money, so they’ll be cheaper to run.”

Am I wrong in thinking that that quote attributed to a DoD spokesman was actually posted here some time ago?

I was talking to the Dept last wek and they told me no details of tenders would be released until the final selection was made.

Why would they lie to me like this '<img'>

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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2004, 01:24:15 pm »
New helicopter fleet to cost €50m
Irtish Independent

A ORDER worth more then €50m for six new helicopters - four of them armed and able to carry up to 32 elite Army Rangers in one lift - is to be placed before the end of the year, it emerged yesterday.

Three of the world's top helicopter manufacturers are competing for the lucrative contract with the Department of Defence for a new fleet of helicopters for the Irish Air Corps.

Four utility helicopters, each capable of being armed with two GPMG machineguns and a variety of other weapons and with the ability to carry eight soldiers each, will be bought.

They will have a primary role operating and training with Ireland's Special Forces, the Army Ranger Wing, along with other tasks. There is also an option to buy two more.

Two light utility choppers will be used mainly for training but all six helicopters will also be available for VIP transport, air ambulance and aid to the civil community.

The three firms confirmed yesterday to the Irish Independent what type of aircraft they will be offering:

* Agusta Westland: Their small A109 which has been bought by Italy, South Africa and other countries and their new larger AB 139.

* Sikorsky: The US firm will offer two versions of their famous Blackhawk helicopter. There are 2,500 Blackhawks in use with many countries, while their smaller S-76 will also be on offer.

* Eurcopter: This group will offer their EC-145 for the utility role and their smaller EC-135, already in use with the Gardai, for the light utility chopper.

The privatisation of search and rescue operations means the Air Corps is now being given more traditional military roles providing more air mobility to the army.

Defence Minister Michael Smith said yesterday that a team of military and civilian personnel which is examining the tenders is expected to complete its work by the end of October and it is hoped to place the contract for the new helicopters before the end of the year.

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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2004, 05:43:51 pm »
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Thats hardly a reliable source.


No article or press release gets put up on IMO without it being checked. All articles & press releases give the publisher's details, so it's as reliable as any other source.
D'oh!

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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2004, 08:21:46 pm »
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Thats hardly a reliable source.


No article or press release gets put up on IMO without it being checked. All articles & press releases give the publisher's details, so it's as reliable as any other source.

I see no source on this. www.military.ie is down at the moment,and the DoD website had no mention of this press release when I last looked.

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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2004, 08:29:45 pm »
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http://www.defence.ie/website....ocument

The Minister for Defence, Mr. Michael Smith T. D., is pleased to announce that the process of evaluating the tenders received in the competition for light utility and utility helicopters has commenced.

The Tender Competition is for the supply of:
(i) two (2) new twin-engine light utility military helicopters which will be operated by the Air Corps, primarily in the military pilot/aircrew training role but with additional general-purpose roles.

(ii) four (4) new twin-engine utility military helicopters (with an option for two (2) more) which will be operated by the Air Corps in a general-purpose military operational and training role. These helicopters must have the capability to carry eight fully-equipped troops in addition to two crew.

Tenders were received from three vendors:
Augusta Westland,
Eurocopter and
Sikorski.

An Evaluation Team made up of military and civilian personnel is currently examining the tenders. It is expected that the Team will complete its work by the end of October.

The Minister plans to place the contract for these new helicopters before the end of the year.

Ends. 13 August 2004





Now we have a source. I wonder why they spelt sikorsky wrong?





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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2004, 09:37:00 pm »
Typo? It happens to eveyone, even those writing official press releases.

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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2004, 01:19:58 pm »
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I see no source on this. www.military.ie is down at the moment,and the DoD website had no mention of this press release when I last looked.


It was posted by a trusted journalist who got it from the DoD, it was also confirmed through direct contact with the DoD.

Like I said, if an article or press release isn't kosher it doesn't go up on IMO.
D'oh!