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Offline Silver

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« on: October 03, 2004, 11:55:52 pm »
It was mentioned in another post (Re: SF-260's) that at some stage in the past the AC (or DoD) was considering swopping one of the Fouga's with the Austrian Air Force museum, but they had nothing suitable to give the AC, so the 'deal' was cancelled.

My question is -

What would the AC museum like to get in terms of swops with other museums (i.e. - aircraft) ?

I guess they would love to get a Spitfire, but with most real Spitfires costing c.500,000 pounds plus, there is little likelyhood of a swop for a Fouga !

However, perhaps a Marchetti could be swopped for a replica Spitfire or Hurricane ?

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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2004, 08:30:25 am »
I wonder could the 1934 Miles Magister in the museum be made airworthy again ?

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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2004, 02:13:33 pm »
If Spitfire PV202/ 161 which ended up as heap of twisted metal as a result of it's crash and has been totally rebuilt at Duxford, there is no valid reason why the Magister could not been made airworthy again.
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2004, 04:39:48 am »
Hi all
With regard to getting a Magister airworthy,the ARB in the UK grounded all of them in 1954,allegedly because the casein glue used in their construction was becoming unsound.They required total stripdowns,including opening glue joints, which was uneconomical,given the low value of a Maggie then, so dozens were burnt or chopped up.If the Air Corps Magister has not had it's joints examined, then it would probably require a total rebuild from the ground up.Bring on the big cheque-book! Another crucial point is: who would certify it? Does it get certified as a "military" aircraft and get signed off by an Air Corps inspector and hence has to be maintained, in perpetuity, by the Air Corps on the public purse.Or does it get put on the civvie register and operated on a Permit to Fly, under the aegis of the Classic and Antique club,albeit under Air Corps supervision and expense? Also, the Air Corps are on tricky legal ground if they fly any obsolete aircraft, especially a taildragger,even if they own it, given that there are no pilots certified under the Air Corps' own legislation to fly taildraggers/Chipmunks,etc. An Officer certifying himself to fly something he is not "current" on, is bending the rules to suit himself and is putting himself,the aircraft and the organisation at risk.

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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2004, 06:36:31 pm »
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I agree that it would not be possible for the Air Corps to restore the Miles Magister for all the reasons you state. It would be possible for a civil registered Magister to be restored to flying and at huge cost I might add. There is a Magister flying in the UK Ex V1075 reg. G-AKPF and there is one also in the USA.
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2004, 09:43:32 pm »
Hello all
Perhaps the Anson would be a suitable project for a full resto? It is substantially intact.After all, Air Atlantique have theirs on a Public Transport C of A. It wouldn't be impossible. Also,the Fouga in the Museum should be returned to flight status, given that the aircraft is fully intact and spares and expertise are readily available.A viable Historic Flight would be a pleasure to see and a useful recruiting tool and offer more positive exposure for the Corps.
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