Author Topic: Fouga Magister 216 is back  (Read 3870 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline pym

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 185
    • View Profile
Fouga Magister 216 is back
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2005, 02:56:50 am »

Offline RMR

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 142
    • View Profile
    • NONE
Fouga Magister 216 is back
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2005, 08:14:21 am »
Thnx Tony,
               219 must be in a fair old state as 216 does'nt look too hot in that pic.Maybe just the paintwork being weather beaten from outdoor storage in Irish climate....

Offline pilatus

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 548
    • View Profile
Fouga Magister 216 is back
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2005, 10:08:28 am »
220 is in good nick but does its frame have many hours left on it?i was looking at the pic of it in carlow i.t. there and looks sparkling new!
above and beyond

Offline pilatus

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 548
    • View Profile
Fouga Magister 216 is back
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2005, 10:38:26 am »
sorry lt.col.silver! 'pilot_cheesy' what time is inspection at?i polish my .5inch gun pods and rocket pods on mt pc9! '<img'>
above and beyond

Offline GoneToTheCanner

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 457
    • View Profile
Fouga Magister 216 is back
« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2005, 11:40:48 am »
Hi all
Tony's mention of Austrian codes is correct but those numbers did persist on Fouga panels.I remember seeing one in the paint shop and asking "Pat the Painter" about the white numbers he was applying. He replied that the numbers had been on them since day 1 and they were going to stay that way.Incidentally, what is the point of the Don giving aircraft away if they refuse to relinquish ownership? Giving a Fouga to a college in Cork and then allowing it to stand outside, far from the college's premises, without having properly prepared it for external storage, is stupid and simply asking for trouble.
Re: the Vampires.One of them ended up having it's tail boom painted as part of an art exhibition in Ormond Quay, Dublin. I don't know if it ever came back.
regards
GttC

Fouga

  • Guest
Fouga Magister 216 is back
« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2005, 12:30:38 pm »
GTTC they never gave them away fully cuz well need them when the wars breaks out!! ':p'

On a serious note 220 should be flying!

Fouga

  • Guest
Fouga Magister 216 is back
« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2005, 12:32:55 pm »
BTW Tony is that Austrian Fouga an Air to Air picture? Looks very good im thinking ata or a low level fast pass? either way its a cracking picture!

 'applause'

Offline clan

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 336
    • View Profile
Fouga Magister 216 is back
« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2005, 02:01:31 pm »
What about 218 in the FAS facility in Shannon, is it in as good condtion as the Carlow machine?
Who mentioned Jets

Offline pilatus

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 548
    • View Profile
Fouga Magister 216 is back
« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2005, 05:40:25 pm »
i havent heard anything about her in ages!though there are pics in the gallery of her in storage there i think!!
above and beyond

Offline Silver

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1315
    • View Profile
Fouga Magister 216 is back
« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2005, 06:46:26 pm »
Quote (pilatus @ 19 Oct. 2005,01:38)
sorry lt.col.silver! 'pilot_cheesy' what time is inspection at?i polish my .5inch gun pods and rocket pods on mt pc9! '<img'>

'pilot_grin'


Re 220
I doubt if she will be returned to airworthy status in the forseeable future.
But you never know, when the museum is full operational, there may then be a move to establish an 'Historic Flight' ......and 220 could be a candidate for it!

Either way, 220 sould never have left Baldonnel!
It was the last Fouga in AC service AND the lead aircraft of the Swallows - for those reasons alone she should have been a prime candidate for the museum !!

Offline Tony Kearns

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 856
    • View Profile
Fouga Magister 216 is back
« Reply #40 on: October 19, 2005, 09:19:54 pm »
Fouga,
The Austrian Magister is air to air.
GttC,
I am happy that ownership is not relinquished otherwise the aircraft and stores and other historical objects / papers would have been destroyed after the suits at Dublin Airport Museum dumped every thing into a hay shed at Castlemoate house. It was disgraceful ( I must dig out photos ) .The Avro XIX 141 was lying against a wall with water running down the side and on the ground the propellor blades had footprints from people standing on them. There were cabinets with historical objects and papers lying around for anyone to take if not already destroyed by dampness. Other aircraft there were vandalised.
Luckily the timely intervention by the Air Corps saved what is now at Baldonnel.
Tony K

Offline pilatus

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 548
    • View Profile
Fouga Magister 216 is back
« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2005, 10:22:04 am »
exactly what aircraft are stored at baldonnel?fouga vampire anson chipmunk dove provost marchetti allouette?!what else?
above and beyond

Offline RMR

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 142
    • View Profile
    • NONE
Fouga Magister 216 is back
« Reply #42 on: October 20, 2005, 10:46:09 am »
Is there a miles magister??

Fouga

  • Guest
Fouga Magister 216 is back
« Reply #43 on: October 20, 2005, 02:47:02 pm »
AFAIK there is a Miles Magister

Offline GoneToTheCanner

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 457
    • View Profile
Fouga Magister 216 is back
« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2005, 08:15:09 pm »
Hi Tony
When the Don "gives" aircraft out, it tends to impose conditions that effectively make it not worth a potential owner's while to expend money on keeping said aircraft in good order.You are right about the poor condition that the Castlemoate storage created but I venture that there was a lot more behind the scenes with regard to funding and control that kept those aircraft in such poor order.Personally,I believe that if the RAF and many other AFs can sell or give away old aircraft and allow their new owners to restore them, without restriction, then it's immature of the Don to attempt to impose conditions,( even to the extent of cutting spars on Chipmunks) on what, in a lot of cases, is junk.The old Provost,177, is a case in point. It could not have been restored to flight in this country because the bureaucrats would have stymied it at every turn.I would be very surprised if the Museum ever gets permission to fly even such flight-ready aircraft as the Marchetti.Incidentally, 220 was out of flight hours because it had fallen due for an overhaul.It's airframe life is, in effect, still good and there's very little stopping it being restored to flight condition.
regards
GttC