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Offline RMR

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« on: March 01, 2006, 05:15:09 pm »
Tonight on rte 2 at 8 o'clock i see there's a programme called
'take two'-..tonight it's on irish aviation,maybe of some interest or could be crap you never know.. 'pilot_grin'

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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2006, 10:52:02 am »
I missed it..was it any good??

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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2006, 11:43:10 am »
Hi there
It was more to do with film stars and assorted politicians visiting Shannon than actual aviation.They could have visited in a barge for all it had to do with flying.Usual suspects fawning and scraping...
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2006, 12:06:32 pm »
but still there was some nice footage of the old terminal at Dublin and also some flying boats that landed at foynes!i dont think it shown one air corps aircraft at all1
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2006, 07:34:48 pm »
They showed the Papal Visit but didnt even bother to show the Fouga's! 'duh'  

BTW anybody watch the Spitfire Celebrations Yesterday? How cool was it to have 161 as the Leader of the Formation over Southampton, watched it on BBC1 and they commented on it saying she ( 161 ) has WW2 Kills and is in the Markings and Colours of the Irish Air Corps!  '<img'>

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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2006, 07:39:15 pm »
It was'nt much good,according to the add in the tv guide it was going to be archive footage of irish aviation,i was thinking fougas escorting the pope,the lads flying out to the congo etc.It was more about the famous people that visited they went more into how Muhamad Ali was a great boxer than how he got to ireland...ah well !

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2006, 10:17:54 am »
Did any of you see the program on last night about Aer Lingus in its early years which focused then on the tuskar rock incident?
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2006, 07:56:48 pm »
Did'nt catch that one,was it any good ??

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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2006, 10:23:18 am »
yip it was pretty good!covered tuskar rock in some detail about the supposed royal navy operation to cover it up!
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2006, 12:11:30 pm »
what do you think it was? i think it was a missile.

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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2006, 01:23:34 pm »
Guys

EI-AOM, CN: 178 (the Tuskar Rock aircraft) was the third Viscount EI lost between June 1967 and March ’68. (http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19680324-0)

EI-AOF CN:176 was lost to a low speed, low level spin during pilot conversion training near Ashbourne on 22nd June 1967. (http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19670622-1)

EI-AKK CN:422 was lost due to pilot error at Bristol on 21st September 1967 with no fatalities. (http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19670921-0)

The Viscounts were know to suffer from corrosion around the tail plane and while poor maintenance procedures were blamed for the loss of OM, pilot error was blamed for the loss of OF and KK.

The KK incident seems pilot related, but as far as I know, no investigation was undertaken to determine if there was a link between EI maintenance procedures and the loss of OF and OM.

Both OM and OF departed from normal flight by way of entering spins that were unrecoverable by the crew. The possibility of a similar, corrosion induced failure in the horizontal stabilizers on both aircraft, undetected by poor maintenance was, as far as I’m aware, never investigated.

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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2006, 11:58:10 am »
at the end of the day it is all only speculation!who knows it could have been a missile or it could have been a problem with airframe itself,we will never know for sure!but youhave to admit the attempted royal navy recovery op is kinda strange!they said they could not find the wreckage but later a local fisherman found it without even tryingso the royal navy then went out to raise the wreckage but just after it came up above the water it crumbled and fell into nothing!they should have known an aircraft in the water would have corroded alot and it would be almost weightless so as soon as it was lifted out of the water it would crumble like a paper cup!and it was supposedly their ercovery experts they sent to raise it!theres definitly something being covered i think!
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2006, 07:27:52 pm »
Eh cover up.......Missile...

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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2006, 07:49:12 pm »
My mother and father while taking a flight to Germany from Dublin in the 70's, saw a missile fly past their cabin window. They told me this for the first time only a few years ago, I couldnt believe it, but they would never make such a story up. I need to ask them about it again, but my father said it just flew right by at speed.

This in itself says to me that it's entirely possible that an airliner could be taken down by an errant missile.

But that doesnt mean it happened at Tuskar Rock, and unfortunately the more time that passes, the less likely the chance of any new evidence being brought to the table.

If the British establishment are  lying- there are plenty of people who know it, and of those, some have to be good people. But 40 years is a very long time to live a lie.

As a people, we seem to love our mysterys, maybe because theyre more appealing to our imaginations than truth. Fact is, we already know the most important thing that happened over Tuskar Rock: alot of people died, needlessly. We shouldnt lose sight of that while speculating.





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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2006, 10:41:50 pm »
If people could approach incidents such as the Tuskar Rock one without the mindset that (a) there must have been a cover-up and that (b) the dastardly Brits have to be behind it, then maybe a more rational discussion would be possible.  

The last official review of this incident dealt fairly successfully with the various myths attaching to the case.  I would recommend that people take the trouble to read this before jumping to the usual conclusions.

http://www.transport.ie/viewitem.asp?id=4106&lang=ENG&loc=1079

http://www.irlgov.ie/tec/aaiu/report/report.htm