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« on: February 16, 2007, 07:40:25 pm »
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 One of the first and only surviving biplanes used by the Air Corps 75 years ago is to be purchased on the State's behalf by Minister for Defence Willie O'Dea.
  
The purchase of the Avro 631 cadet model, used in second World War patrols off the Irish coastline, is expected to cost more than $200,000 (ˆ152,000), with additional delivery costs.
  
There are "no plans" for the Minister to fly it back to Ireland from New Zealand, according to his department, but it may be shipped in time for the general election.
  
Confirming the bid yesterday, the Minister said that he was "very conscious of the Air Corp's proud past and of the desire of many aviation enthusiasts, military and civil alike to preserve as much of the Air Corps heritage as possible". The current owner was keen for it to be returned to its original aerodrome in Baldonnel, he said.
  
In March, 1932, the Air Corps took delivery of a number of Avro aircraft - the 631 Cadet model - at Casement Aerodrome in Baldonnel. The planes were painted in Air Corps colours of black and silver, with the national flag across the rudder and wingtips.
 
The C7 in New Zealand was a replacement for one of the Avros which crashed in 1932, and was used by the Air Corps from 1934. Later it was sold into private ownership, and was consigned to the rafters of a timber mill for more than 40 years before a well-known aircraft restorer in England, Ron Souch, located it.
 
By the time it arrived in New Zealand most of its fuselage structure had been restored. Rare aircraft collector Jim Schmidt continued the project, and also retains the plane's original log book.
 
It includes a letter from a former Air Corps pilot, Donald MacCarron, describing his experiences in the C7 on patrol during the second World War. "At one point he jokes about the boredom almost driving him to join the Luftwaffe!" Schmidt told The Irish Times when it reported on the discovery two years ago. One other Avro 631 exists but it is on display in a Portuguese museum. The C7 is the world's only "active example", still flying in the Irish colours.
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2007, 08:42:36 pm »
Great news .... now for the museum!!

I think this might be the aircraft in question ...

http://www.spantax.org/diario/6/img/museu3.png

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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2007, 09:50:08 pm »
Nope, this is the one (and it's airworthy too!)....

http://www.avrocadet.com/


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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2007, 10:27:07 pm »
Do you think once purcahsed by the Air Corps that it will be kept in flying condition?

where will thsi be stored?
Baldonnel or the National Museum
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2007, 10:31:52 pm »
Quote (Frank @ 16 Feb. 2007,19:40)
....The current owner was keen for it to be returned to its original aerodrome in Baldonnel....

Could be a condition of the sale that it goes to Baldonnel
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2007, 10:20:07 pm »
Maybe the minister did take into consideration all those e-mails we sent regarding the cadet after all..... 'pilot_wink'

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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2007, 09:01:28 pm »
This is great news!!

I've just read this and was very surprised that it is actually happening?!!

I was one of the people who wrote a lenghty letter to Minister O Dea. (The reply he sent said that the DoD was not going to buy the plane, but another 'state body' was looking into it's purchase)

I believe it will go to the National Museum until such time as the AC have a dedicated museum in place.


Regardless........great that Avro 631 is coming home! 'applause'

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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2007, 08:30:44 am »
Well done everybody involved  'thumbsup'

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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2007, 08:42:27 pm »
They are not happy campers on IRISH MILITARY ONLINE, not happy at all.
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2007, 09:00:03 pm »
Tony,

Here's a question you can probably answer....

Will the Cadet be kept airworthy and flown by the Air Corps when it arrives here?


Thanks in advance,

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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2007, 09:13:38 pm »
Quote (Frank @ 22 Feb. 2007,12:00)
Tony,

Here's a question you can probably answer....

Will the Cadet be kept airworthy and flown by the Air Corps when it arrives here?


Thanks in advance,

Frank.

Yes.
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2007, 09:17:16 pm »
Thanks Tony!
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2007, 08:00:45 am »
Any idea when this old bird will arrive on Baldonnel?

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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2007, 11:55:37 am »
What's wrong with them on IMO Tony ?

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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2007, 01:34:41 pm »
Quote (RMR @ 23 Feb. 2007,02:55)
What's wrong with them on IMO Tony ?

Some of them feel that the cost of purchase should be used for the purchase of items such as raingear for the RDF otherwise they would have to shelter under the wings of the Avro Cadet. In fairness since I posted that comment there has been a lot of support for the Cadet.

Guinness, arrival date of the aircrft? too soon to speculate.
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