Hey Claudel, thanks for that, I do sense a bit of jealousy sneeking in there in Lurks post! Lurk, if you look up FFs particulars you'll see that HE is really a SHE! And as I've said in another strand, I don't remember any female pilots in the 'Don up to 1985, FF reckons that she was a pilot in one of the Fouga's when the Pope flew in! Well I was on the line when the Fougas went off to escort the Pope in and when they returned. There definitely weren't any female pilots there that day! And how come she doesn't post any replies in the real Air Corps persons thread?