Second Hand Aircraft

[clan]

No problem Taj,
 I look forward to buying the Magazine.
Regards

Alan

[Taj]

I am waiting on distributors to come back with the exact date but within three weeks.Its going to be published monthly and it will be on sale nationwide.If you have any trouble getting one let me know I'll see what I have lying around.

Just give me a heli like a truck, with the speed of a truck, the fuel economy of a truck that looks like a truck, fits as many as a truck, costs as much as a truck, can have some armour plating and a couple of door guns and NVG and I'll give you a reasonable lift capability in the morning. I don't care how sexy she looks, as long as she does it all the time for as long as I want and won't give up when we get adventurous. Unlike the dauphins (and unfortunately the Alouettes).

[alpha foxtrot 07]

BLACKHAWKS DAMIT!
used of the US there really cheap, 5-6 million apiece.

[Silver]

Imshi,
This is a "discsussion" board - not an "argument" board.

I'm not arguing with anybody ?!

My statement is completly correct.
FACT : The Irish Air "CORPS" have/will continue to have, a strike capability (whether you consider that capability useful or otherwise) - and the Royal New Zealand Air "FORCE" (for example) do not have a similar capability.

Regards,
Silver.

[Imshi-Yallah]

Argument: noun:   a fact or assertion offered as evidence that something is true (Example: "It was a strong argument that his hypothesis was true")

Stop trying to hide behind false reason,
Capability: noun:   an aptitude that may be developed

There is little doubt that we have the ability to partially train pilots for a mission that they will neither be completely trained for or carry out in the currently planned orbat and concept of ops.
I would ARGUE that this is not a capability, this is a frill.

[sealion]

Quote

M:  I came here for a good argument. A:   No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument. M:  An argument isn't just contradiction. A:   It can be. M:  No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition. A:   No it isn't. M:  Yes it is! It's not just contradiction. A:   Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position. M:  Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.' A:   Yes it is! M:   No it isn't! A:   Yes it is! M:  Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. (short pause) A:  No it isn't. .

Courtesy of Monty Python.

[Silver]

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Jeez, lighten up Imshi !
 
For the record -
I believe it was Air Forces Monthly who said "the Air Corps has always maintained a useful strike capability".

[Imshi-Yallah]

AFM is a fanboy magazine that just prints out statements direct fromt eh source, including the Irish DOD with their fantasy airforce.

[FiannaFail]

In my opinion Silver seems to be the only one that is making any sense here!!
FiannaFail '>

[Guinness]

Bejaysus FiannaFail,

since when did you brain start working?

I do agree here.
To my opinion Silver is the only one with an objective view on the subject.

Talking 'bout choppers and capability for the IAC.

Our RNLAF is about to sell 6 brand new AH-64D's.
( talking about moneywaste).
What about these for the IAC?'>

Guinness

[Imshi-Yallah]

What exactly would a force with no internal logistical capability (airborne obviously) do with Attack helicopters?
The phrase walk before you can run springs to mind, what would be the point of attack helicopters that we can't deploy that would have a severely limited role since none of our troops can be airlifted?
This kind of ridiculous statement typifies the complete detachment from reality that pervades this board: fantasies are not what the IAC needs, what it does need is real world capabilities as a military force.

[clan]

Well, if we taking on a more in our ERF role, we will need them to be added to the list, it may seem a fantasy now, but in en years it could be a necessity.

[Imshi-Yallah]

Integral Logistics and RISTA capabilities are what we will be asked to provide to the ERF, in other words the ability to move ourselves to the fight.
Combat aircraft are not in short supply in the EU

[Guinness]

There's no short in supply of cargo-planes in the EU either so that's no excuse.

Guinness