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Offline pilatus

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« on: June 06, 2004, 12:55:41 pm »
now all the fougas are gone for good and it may be 10years or more before another military jet is bought for the corps should the corps still keep some experience in flying jets or lose it and have to gain it all back again?what im getting at is should the corps send some of its pilots to courses like the NFTC in canada were the pilot learns the tricks and trades of being a fighter pilot and to keep their skills sharp organise apilot exchange with some airforce who fly jets like the HAWK or L159 which would be similar in size and performance to any jet the corps would get.im sure this idea would have its flaws but would the corps not reap the benefits of having capable jet jockeys if such aircraft were bought?  '<img'>
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2004, 07:27:46 pm »
it cost at least 1m to train a fighter pilot. do you honestly thinlk the gov are going to spend that much to train a pilot for a job that is not needed.
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2004, 08:23:16 pm »
Quote (alpha foxtrot 07 @ 07 June 2004,10:27)
it cost at least 1m to train a fighter pilot. do you honestly thinlk the gov are going to spend that much to train a pilot for a job that is not needed.

insurance is dear but better have it than get when its to late!Given the recent terrorist threats to the western world (and its a big western world practically anybody who has white skin is a westerner) i would argue that jets and good pilots are highly essential!
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2004, 04:04:16 am »
i agree that jets and pilots to fly them are important, but having pilots trained to fight and then just sitting around not being able to practice those skills is a complete waste of money.
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2004, 07:50:11 pm »
I fully agree with AF 07 here.

The investment of training a fighter jock is way to high compared to the use he / she will have to the IAC.

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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2004, 10:01:12 pm »
you cant really say its a waste of money they would learn some tactics that could be applied to the pc9s?if they were sent away every year to another airforce on a pilot exchange they could keep their skills sharpened. '<img'>
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2004, 05:19:20 am »
The only way I can see that one could make use of someone with skills is to make sure he/she has an FJ to play with, 2 weeks a year in Miramar or similar is not going to be any use to anyone............but in the meantime pilots should be taught at least rudimentry A to A skills and any unoffical 'burning and turning'  should be ignored if not actully encouraged, in order to go as far as possable in establishing the 'culture of air-defence' which I have mentioned before.
There is plenty room for it over the Bog of Allen, and yes, I am aware that there is a certain amount of danger involved.
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2004, 10:47:18 am »
Hi Guys,

I read or heard somewhere before that the on-board computer or HUD on the PC-9M's has various training modes, including an air-to-air or air intercept training mode?

Can anyone clarify this?


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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2004, 06:45:58 pm »
interesting indeed i didnt hear anything about it but the manufacturer states the pc-9 is built to do the job of a jet trainer whos job is to teach how to fly and fight a fighter!and turkey most pilot exchanges normally last months not weeks you would not learn much in two weeks!



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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2004, 05:15:41 am »
Frank,

I read that also (re the various training modules of the PC9's).

The training missions can also be recorded for later discussion.

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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2004, 07:24:33 am »
the US PC-9 (T-6) is used to train future jet jocks, so much so there is a yaw dampener installed so the students dont have to use rudder to counter the turning tendencies of the  a/c
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